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Shopping at a fake market is one of the most popular activities for foreigners who first land in China. However, many foreigners are clueless on the prices they should pay for fake items. I don’t necessarily condone purchases at fake markets, but I do condone shopping educated if you decide to go this route. Therefore, this blog post goes over documented lowest prices that I have personally seen or researched in Shanghai. It is a continuation of my previous post of A Guide to Fake Markets in Shanghai. Looking for fabric market prices? Check out my write up on the Shanghai Fabric Market.
As a note, this website is optimized for iPhone viewing. If you have a working iPhone in China, bookmark this post and pull it up as a reference guide when you are shopping in the fake markets to ensure you pay optimal prices.
Now on to the Shanghai fake market prices you should be paying …
Fake Clothes / Bags / Accessories
1) Sunglasses (e.g. Oakleys) – Initial offer: 100 – 300 RMB. You pay: 10 – 20 RMB. You can find a variety of quality in the sunglasses that you see. Some look to be decent quality, some not so decent. The best quality sunglasses (with “UV Protection”) may run you up to 30 RMB depending on the time of day and vendor, but it may be possible to go down as low as 20 RMB.
2) Jeans (e.g. Diesel) – Initial offer: 200 – 500 RMB. You pay: 50 – 140 RMB. Like the sunglasses above, the price of jeans will vary based on quality. The best quality fake jeans in Shanghai can be found at 580 Nanjing Rd, where the copies are nearly identical to the real versions. However, if you buy at Qipu Rd, you shouldn’t pay any more than 60 RMB for a pair of jeans. At Science & Technology Museum Metro you should be able to get a pair of jeans for roughly 80 RMB.
3) Small Scarf – Initial offer: 70 – 100 RMB. You pay: 10 RMB. Any small scarf should run you 10 RMB.
4) Large Cashmere Scarf – Initial offer: 100 – 200 RMB. You pay: 40 RMB. This is like the large LV scarf that you see at a variety of stands. You may be able to get down to 30 RMB if you are in the right situation.
5) Casual Shoes (e.g. Converse, Diesel) – Initial offer – 200 – 400 RMB. You pay: 50 – 60 RMB. If there is nothing too fancy about the shoes, you should be able to get them for 50 – 60 RMB after hard bargaining. If this offer doesn’t work, go to similar shops and bump up by 5 RMB each time.
6) Sports Shoes (e.g. Nike) – Initial offer – 300 – 400 RMB. You pay: 100 RMB. If the shoes are fancy and have quality soles and decoration, the cost may bump up to 100 RMB. 100 RMB should be able to get you any non-work shoes.
7) Dress Shoes (custom made) – Initial offer: 500 – 800 RMB. You pay: 150 RMB. If 150 RMB doesn’t work, go to the next stall and try 155 RMB. Keep this going until you get the lowest price. No matter what, you should never pay more than 200 RMB for a pair of shoes.
8) Uggs – Initial offer: 400 – 600 RMB. You pay: 110 RMB. No need to pay full price for your Uggs. 110 RMB should be a solid offer.
9) Calvin Klein boxer briefs – Initial offer: 20 – 50 RMB. You pay: 6 RMB. The offer may need to be bumped up 1 or 2 RMB, but never go over 10 RMB for these.
10) Socks – Initial price: 15 RMB / pair. You pay 5 RMB / pair. You may even be able to go lower based on how many socks you buy.
11) Top Quality Automatic Watches – Initial offer 500 – 2000 RMB. You pay: 120 – 250 RMB. To get the best quality watches, tell the vendor that you want better quality watches when he brings out the first batch of watches. When he brings out the second batch, ask again for better quality. If he can’t bring out better, you have the best quality of watches. You may want to leave this vendor to go to another to see if you can find even better quality watches. There is a lot of discussion over what the proper prices are for the top watches. Due to the heightened demand of fake watches with the influx of foreigners (thanks the the Expo), look to spend a bit more than you did last year. I was unfortunately unsuccessful during my attempts to get the best of the best a few weeks ago for under 200. This was partially due to the opening weekend of the Expo and partially due to the time of day/day of week/weather. When you shop for fake watches, make sure you read my guide on negotiation strategies in the fake market and read the comments below on fake watches. Shop to the best of your abilities and be happy with your purchase (just promise me that you won’t spend over 400 RMB, under any circumstances).
12) Woman’s Bag (e.g. Coach, LV) – Initial offer: 300 – 1000 RMB. You pay: 100 RMB. 100 RMB seems to be the sweet spot for bag prices. You may need to pay a bit more, but not much. Use 100 RMB as a starting point for even the best woman’s bags. Because you can find these bags at multiple stalls, don’t waiver from your 100 RMB price at the first stand. If they say no, walk out and try a slightly higher price at the next stand.
13) Leather Designer Belt – Initial offer: 80 – 150 RMB. You pay: 25 RMB. Depending on the fake market dealer, the quality of the belt, and the location of the store, you may need to pay a bit more. However, start at 25 RMB for the best of belts and go elsewhere if your offer isn’t accepted.
14) T-Shirts (e.g. Shanghai shirts, Billabong shirts) – Initial offer: around 100 RMB. You pay: 25 RMB. You likely would hesitate to pay 100 RMB for a plain shirt in your home country. Why pay it in China. 25 RMB is a fair price.
15) Northface Fleece Jacket – Initial offer: around 400 RMB. You pay: 150 RMB. You may be able to get a little lower depending on the time of day, quality, and location.
16) Laptop Bag – Initial offer: 300 – 700 RMB. You pay: 60 RMB. Even the best leather bags can be had for well under 100 RMB. Choose the best and offer 60 RMB. If you can’t get it for this price, go to the next stand and offer 65 or 70 RMB.
17) Northface large backpack – Initial offer: 250 – 400 RMB. You pay: 75 RMB. Make sure all the staps click together and the sewing is correct.
18) Large 4 Wheel Suitcase (e.g. Samsonite, Swiss Army) – Initial offer: 400 – 800 RMB. You pay: 150 RMB. Again, this price may be too low, but because you can find these vendors everywhere, test out the 150 RMB price and slowly work your way up if you are rejected from the first vendor. There is no way that you should pay more than 200 RMB for the best of suitcases.
Software / DVDs
1) DVDs - Initial Price: 15 – 20 RMB. You pay: 5 or 9 RMB. The cost all depends on the quality of the DVD. If it is DVD 9, you should pay 9 RMB. If it is not, pay 5 RMB. You can get a small discount if you buy in bulk.
2) Software – Initial price: 30 – 400 RMB. You pay: 15 RMB. The cost to the dealer to create the software is maybe 10 RMB. Therefore, giving a 5 RMB premium over cost is fair. If you buy software with multiple disks, increase the price by 10 RMB per CD. You may also need to pay a slight premium for software that is hard to find. Don’t get fooled into paying a large premium for expensive products such as Rosetta Stone. Also, be aware that some software may not work for your computer.
3) iPhone portable charger: Initial price: 150 – 300 RMB. You pay: 40 or 70 RMB. If you buy the 1000 mAh charger, look to pay 40 RMB. If you buy the 1900 mAh charger, look to pay 70 RMB (possibly cheaper). If you are in the United States now, you may opt to simply buy the 1900 mAh charger through Amazon now at under $14.
4) Wii, Xbox, and Playstation games – Initial price: 15 – 50 RMB. You pay: 5 – 10 RMB. This is a pretty well established price range for CD video games in Shanghai fake markets. No need to pay more than 10. Wii games usually run at 5 RMB, however other system games may be a bit more. Not all games will work perfectly, but the majority will be fine. Make sure to verify that the games are English games.
5) Nintendo DS games – Initial price: around 100 RMB. You pay: 20 RMB. Depending on other factors, you may end up paying 25 RMB for your DS games. If so, don’t worry.
As mentioned above, this post will continue to be an ever-evolving list. If you have something to add to this list or can confirm that you purchased one of these products at a lower price, please share in the comments section. Ideally, mention the description of your product, the quantity you purchased and the market you bought at (Science and Technology, Nanjing Rd, Qipu Rd, Yu Yuan Garden, or other).
Unfortunately, Shanghai fake market prices for electronics and jewelry are harder to pinpoint due to the variety of the products. If you are shopping for any of these items, see my guide to the fake markets in Shanghai for advice on negotiations. Also, be aware that there is a high likelihood of failure for these products. Buy at your own risk.
If you find yourself in another city (Nanjing, Guangzhou, Beijing), adjust the prices you pay up or down based on the city. Many fake items are produced in Guangzhou, so serious shoppers should consider a trip to Guangzhou for fake product purchases.
Interested in part two of Shanghai Fake Market Prices? Click here (Password Protected)
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134 Responses
Really enjoyed this, though our superior failed to enjoy me bypassing work to read it, he he.
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Very nice guide! thanks!
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Love your post. I’ll share it on facebook if you don’t mind.
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Keila — Thank you for the feedback. Feel free to share it wherever.
Michael and Jamie — Glad to help. I hope it saves you a few RMB in the future.
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hey, its a great guide and mostly correct based on my experience.
if i may ask though, where can you but DVD 9 at 9 RMB? we usually go to DVD shops and it is not possible to bargain =( thanks!
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You can buy DVD 9s at either Nanjing Rd or Science and Technology Museum fake markets. Go in there, choose a few, and say 9 RMB each. You should be fine at this price. If not, go to the next shop and make sure you look and act like you’ve done it before. If you go to Nanjing, I would suggest you not buy on the first floor (because there is more traffic there and they can bump of the prices because demand is higher). One other piece of advice is to casually mention your interest in DVDs to the shop owners. Because of the expo, DVD sales are becoming less and less public. Soon enough, you won’t have visible DVD sales.
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I really enjoy this post, this is what I was looing for exactly. How much should I pay for a woman taylor-made coat?
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Thank you very much for this nice guide some prices are nearly the ones i paid but some are much cheaper i’d expected. Maybe you can write some prices for taylor market even that it depends a lot on quality. I think i pay too much there but I can’t get cheaper. I’m afraid when i bargain more i get worse quality.
Thanks a lot!
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I’ll look to get a guide on the fabric market up by the end of the month.
Stella — As a preview, a decent mid-length cashmere woman’s tailor made coat will begin at around 350 RMB. You will initially be quoted up to 1,000 RMB for the coat. I would likely start negotiations for a full-length double lined and stitched cashmere coat at 350. If the first vendor says no, go to another and bump your price up slightly. Don’t bother wasting time with negotiations. Go in and name your price as though you’ve done it before. If you get a “no”, go on to the next one.
One thing to remember is that all vendors at the 399 Lujiabang Lu market are essentially the same. None of the people you speak to actually do the work. Therefore, don’t get caught up in the quality of one vendor vs. another.
Philipp — I understand what you are saying. You want to negotiate hard when the products you receive are fixed. This means anything that will remain constant no matter what you pay for them (ex. fake market goods). However, two things to think about. First, the sales people don’t actually create your product. Second, you only need to worry if you offend or treat a salesperson poorly. If you go in, name your price and desires and don’t play games, you don’t need to worry. If they aren’t getting money from you, they won’t accept your offer. Treat the sales people with respect and kindness and you should be fine.
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thanks for your advice, I don’t like bargainin/negotiating very much and this list is pretty helpful.
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Thanks for your reply.
You wrote that best quality watches are about 120-140RMB and not more than 150RMB i tried to but even with hard bargaining in nearly all shops i couldn’t get lower than 170RMB and found even a better quality next time i was there. Are you sure you gut the really best quality? There are also different Prices between the differnt Fake-Watch-Manufectures.
Greez
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Philipp,
What I would suggest is to go to one dealer, continuously ask for better versions of watches until the dealer brings out his best set of watches. From here, don’t even go into negotiations. Offer 120. If he says no and lets you walk, go on to the next dealer. Continue this until you get up to the lowest price possible. 170 may be the new low price these days. I haven’t personally checked prices for watches in a bit (I personally prefer real watches), but my sources informed me of the <150 price.
A few things to think about — first, fake watch prices in Shanghai will likely jump a bit with the crackdown of all-things-illegal due to the world expo. There are various fake items that are jumping in prices and other fake items that are going to be a lot harder to find until the end of the expo. Second, consider where you are shopping and the time of day. The more questionable shops without much traffic will give you a cheaper price because you are sacrificing comfort for money. Shopping for fake watches in Qipu Lu may be a good option because there aren’t a lot of rich tourists that frequent this location. On the other hand, shopping for fake watches in the fabric market (which is a popular destination for rich foreigners) on a weekend will likely yield much higher prices.
Please let me know what your final price turns out to be and where you got your watch. If 120-140 is no longer reasonable, I will adjust the prices in the blog.
Thanks for your feedback!
Mike
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Hi Mike, what a great site! Good work–I’ve already fwded it so some of my friends. A few questions for you:
- how would you rate the quality of the fake suitcases? i’ve been tempted to get a big samsonite, but am reluctant if it’s going to fall apart after a few months. Also, how big of a suitcase does 150rmb get you? is it hardcase?
- do you have any advice on buying best quality fake golf clubs?
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PN,
Thanks for your kind comment. I actually love the fake suitcases. They are slightly worse quality than the real ones, but when you consider the price, they are fine. My “friend” owns a suitcase that has lasted multiple years and is his top suitcase. My “friend” also bought a new fake suitcase about a month ago at the S&T Museum Metro for 150 RMB. It was roughly the same one as you can see on Amazon here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002B54OBI?ie=UTF8&tag=balle06-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B002B54OBI.
You can choose whatever size suitcase you want for this price. My “friend’s” was the largest one they had. The medium ones should go cheaper.
You need to watch out with golf clubs. There are various levels of fake golf clubs. I personally haven’t priced them yet, but, looking at Taobao.com, you should expect to spend between 700 and 6000 RMB for a set depending on quality and number of clubs (see http://search.taobao.com/search?q=golf+clubs&commend=all&ssid=s5-e&search_type=item&atype=&filterFineness= for a listing of golf clubs on TaoBao). Because I’m not an expert on golf or golf clubs, I might be the type of person who ends up with the bad quality golf clubs thinking they are the good quality clubs.
Are you currently located in China? I would personally suggest you buy off of taobao instead of at the fake markets. Choose a dealer who has good feedback (you can read the comments from buyers if you download the google translator toolbar for firefox — read my article on it if you have questions). You’ll pay a bit more than you would in the fake markets by using taobao, but you’ll feel a bit more confident that you’re getting the best quality of fakes as possible. From what I heard from my Chinese friends (no quotes), you can get some very good quality fake golf clubs — comparable to real golf clubs. However, you need to buy from the right people unless you really know your golf clubs.
I hope this helps.
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Nice! I can’t wait to load up on Wii games :)
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Mike Reply:
May 6th, 2010 at 11:54 pm
One quick note — Wii games are slightly harder to find now that the Shanghai Expo is here. Go to the Science and Technology Museum or Nanjing Rd Fake Markets and you should be ok. If you don’t see them right away, ask around and you will get them.
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great work .i m planning 2 go 2 shanghai. this will help alot.mail me updates .thanks
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Mike Reply:
May 7th, 2010 at 7:33 pm
Glad to help. I’ve gone through the learning curve, so it’s nice to cut this out for my readers to save them a bit of money. My newsletter includes a password to part II of Shanghai Fake Market Prices and I’ll look to do part III in the future. Enjoy your trip!
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Very helpful. I really appreciate your time to help us with a detailed doc.
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what time do the fake markets here close? i’m currently in Shanghai at the moment and am only available to roam around town in the evenings after dinner, would that be too late to go to the fake markets then?
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Mike Reply:
July 14th, 2010 at 4:00 pm
Hi Samantha,
I would say so. I was just at the Science and Technology Museum fake market yesterday (Tuesday) and it was closing up at around 7:30. You may wish to try a weekend day for the Shanghai fake markets.
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Hello! Thanks for the great guide.
I would like to buy a Nintendo Wii that runs the games that can be found at the fake markets.
Where should I go in Shanghai? How much should I pay?
Many thanks.
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Mike Reply:
August 17th, 2010 at 12:17 pm
I got my Wii for essentially the same price as I would have paid in the USA (it is a Japanese version). I spent maybe 100 or 200 RMB more to get it set up to allow me to play copied games. Now, I am able to play any and all of the games from the fake markets.
I bought this machine at a small shop in PuDong a couple of years ago. Unfortunately, I can’t remember the location. One of my local friends took me there.
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Thanks for your website Mike. I would like to buy ice hockey sticks and brand name baseball glove (ZETT or SSK brand). Do you ever see any of these products at the markets? If not can you suggest someplace for me to look?
Thanks again for your reply.
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Mike Reply:
August 19th, 2010 at 10:47 am
Hi James,
I’m afraid I don’t know. I haven’t personally seen them in the fake market, but I haven’t been actively looking for either. Maybe one of these site’s readers can answer?
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Thanks for the reply Mike. I am told there is someone selling hockey stuff at the market by the Science Museum Station. I will check it out when I’m there and reply here.
Another question please: Is there a Chinese version of the Kindle Reader?
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TSU Reply:
August 25th, 2010 at 4:22 pm
I’ve been in Shanghai now for almost two weeks and been to the S&T Museum Station market a few times and I have to say that so far my eyes have not caught any hockey or baseball equipment.
There are a few vendors selling NHL jerseys, but that’s about it.
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Mike Reply:
August 29th, 2010 at 12:54 pm
Following up with what TSU said, I also didn’t see hockey goods at the Nanjing Fake Market (just went a couple of days ago). I haven’t seen the Kindle reader in the fake markets, but I also don’t know if I would really trust a fake version of one of these :). Please let me know if you do find any of this.
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TSU and Mike thank you very much for taking the time to respond. I am grateful.
I’ll be there next week to have a sniff around.
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9RMB for DVD9’s? I’ve never paid more than 5RMB for DVD9’s at Nanjing Rd.
Don’t even enter into negotiations, just have the exact change ready (f.e. for 4 DVD’s 20RMB), show it to the shop owner and ask ‘ok?’. 90% of them will agree to it. In the remaining 10% of the cases just go to the next stall who will certainly sell you the DVD’s for 5RMB each.
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Mike Reply:
September 23rd, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Nice! I’d consider that a win and great knowledge! Thanks for sharing.
As and aside, I don’t buy fake DVDs any more since I get all of my movies for free — see my never buy fake DVDs guide at for details.
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Hi, Mike! I’m so enjoying your website! Thank you!
Today, I went to Nanjing Rd., and was attempting to buy a Monclair down-jacket, but I had no idea for the right price, so I didn’t but one.
Do you have any clue for Monclair’s, and also designer’s (Tory Burch) Bags and shoes?
Thank you!
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Mike Reply:
September 30th, 2010 at 12:16 am
Hi Miho,
Thanks for the comments. My strategy would be as follows for buying your fake down-jacket and fake bags:
Down Jacket – Start at 200 RMB and work your way up. My guess (and I haven’t purchased a coat since the winter) is that you will end up between 200 and 300. If you are adventurous, you could even start at 175 to see judge how angry they get (or maybe 150 :)).
Bags – Start at 80 RMB and work your way up. If you pay over 100 RMB, don’t worry too much. It will depend on the size and the quality. However, there are so many bag dealers that you should start low and slowly work your way up depending on how much you value your time.
Shoes — Start at 50. You will end up paying between 50 and 100, but aim for the lower end.
Please post with your final prices to keep this website updated. Thanks!
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iam planning a trip to shangai from mexico, could you tell me were i can find good fake watches hublot, and also like fake ipohne
thank you so much
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Mike Reply:
September 30th, 2010 at 12:04 am
Hi Mario,
I don’t know about exact brands of fake watches, but you can find decent selections of both watches and fake iPhones (really only a few choices) at the Nanjing Rd and Science and Technology Museum Fake Markets.
Hope this helps,
Mike
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mario kassar Reply:
September 30th, 2010 at 8:05 am
mike if you ever in mazatlan mexico need a place to stay http://www.lasflores.com.mx i can get you in for free for a week thanks
mario
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also some brand name fakes for my wife clothes thanks alot
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Mike Reply:
September 30th, 2010 at 12:07 am
Both of the Shanghai fake markets (Nanjing and S&T) will be good for that. There are both upscale and mid-scale fakes at these locations. For clothes, I’d recommend you go to the third and fourth floors of the Nanjing Rd. fake market or shop for at some of the “upper-scale” fake shops at the S&T museum fake market.
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mario kassar Reply:
September 30th, 2010 at 8:07 am
thank you MIKE you have a free week in mazatlan mexico at hotel las flores thanks again your amigo mario
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Mike Reply:
October 5th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Thanks! I’ll let you know if I’m ever out your way.
Thanks Mike for this impressive page!!
Could you please bring some light to me :)
I am looking for Android tablets (7″ or 10″). I don’t care if they looks like Ipad or not.
I just want the better hardware possible (chip, RAM, etc.)and at least Android 2.1 version.
You have any idea where to find them and how much to pay for them?
Is there any reliable chinese Android tablet?
Tomorrow I will try at the Digital Plaza Center.
Additionally, what about Chinese Wii’s and DS’s ?? I can buy them in S&T Market and use them in Europe with euopean games?
Best regards and thanks!!
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Mike Reply:
October 20th, 2010 at 3:17 pm
Hi Javier,
I haven’t seen the Android tablets, but I have seen the ipads. I definitely wouldn’t recommend buying from the shanghai fake markets.
If I am looking for quality electronics in Shanghai, I generally shop near metro city. Go to exit 10 in the Xujiahui metro exit and before going up the stairs to go outside, keep going straight to a store. There are multiple stands here with electronics. You can also negotiate here, but you will only be able to bump down between 10 – 25% (usually).
I bought my Wii at a small electronics store in PuDong that one of my Chinese friends knew about. to be honest, I don’t know where it was purchased at. It was a Japanese version that was “jailbroken” so that I could play copy games. Unfortunately, I don’t have specifics that I can share. I did this about 2+ years ago. I would assume that DS’s could be bought at the same locations (or just at Best Buy).
Not sure if this helped much at all. No matter what though, don’t buy any high priced electronics from any Shanghai Fake Market! Games and DVDs are fine.
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hi Mike,
I really enjoy what you have written about Shanghai, we are going in Nov. we are really looking forward to our trip and expecially with all your shopping tips!!I have two questions………is the weather warm enough for golf and is it expensive? And do you know where we can buy knockoff LuluLemon yoga outfits?
thanks
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Mike Reply:
November 2nd, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Hi,
Thank you for your comment. It is getting pretty cold here in Shanghai, so your ability to play golf is based on your ability to withstand the cold weather :). Just bring a coat and you may be ok (although, admittedly, I’m not a golfer).
I am also unsure about the yoga outfits. To be honest, I’ve never seen them in the Shanghai Fake Markets. However, I’ve never shopped for them.
Enjoy your time in Shanghai!
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Carina Reply:
May 2nd, 2011 at 8:37 am
If you fly Air Canada, ask the flight attendants- there’s apparantly someone who sells Lulu knock offs right outside of their crew hotel- i got a sweater for $20CAD. good luck!
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Mike Reply:
May 19th, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Haha, thanks for the Lulu fake product advice!
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The review was excellent, I actually got great quality stuff from Nanjing Rd. I felt like I knew what I was doing, I think the vendors did too as i think I got some excellent prices. 5 watches for 120 RMB each, 1 LV wallet for 180RMB, and a really nice Columbia jacket for 250RMB. I was really taken by just how much you can bargain. You were absolutely right when you said don’t waiver from your original price, just walk away and they will sell at your price.
Thank you Mike as I would have definitely paid too much otherwise
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Mike Reply:
November 7th, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Hi,
Thanks for the kind words. Yes, it is amazing how much negotiating you can do in the fake markets and in life in general :).
Take care,
Mike
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Recently went to S&T : I think I paid okay prices on most stuff:
1 nba jersey and short set + 1 nfl jersey for my kid @ 280 rmb
2 sets of chopsticks and 3 scarves @ 200 rmb
1 light northface jacket @ 100 rmb
1 medium size LV purse @ 300 rmb (probably paid too much)
1 diesel shoulder bag @ 80 rmb
2 oakley sunglasses @ 100 rmb
2 nautica shirts for men @ 100 rmb
2 lesportsac purses @ 100 rmb
What time do they close on weekdays?
What do you think what be a good price to pay for Tory Burch shoes for women and a good Burberry purse and scarf?
Any tips from one guy to another on how to tell good quality purses for women? :-)
Also, can you suggest where can I buy good quality jade or chinese jewlery for my wife? I have limited time on Friday so would like to be efficient on my route.
Thanks Mike.
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Mike Reply:
November 11th, 2010 at 10:46 am
Hi Rick,
Glad you got started with your fake market shopping and thank you for sharing your prices! Your prices are good as long as you are happy :).
I wouldn’t recommend going to the fake markets after 7:00. Between 6 and 7 should be fine for the Shanghai Fake Markets since they realize that foreigners like to go after work.
I’m not too familiar with the Tory Burch brand, but dress shoes typically go for about 200 RMB now while casual shoes can be had for 50-100 RMB (depending on your negotiationg skills). Fake Burburry scarves can be had for 10 RMB at the low end. Don’t go much higher than that if they won’t bite. Some of the larger scarves are a bit more expensive. For the purse — start at 100 RMB and work your way up in 10 / 20 RMB intervals. They are sold everywhere, so don’t feel pressured to buy at the first Shanghai Fake Market shop you go to.
Quality of purses can be told by feel and stitching. However, most of the Shanghai Fake Markets receive their items from a bulk purchase from a factory, so the quality won’t be different from shop to shop. However, there are some shops (I forget their name, but it is something “Bug” in the Science and Technology Museum Fake Market) that will have higher quality fakes. The prices are also higher.
I’m afraid I don’t know much about quality Jade. There are some “official” jewelry shops in the Science and Technology Museum Fake Market, but you still need to be careful about these purchases. What about going up to Suzhou for jewelry shopping? You can usually get much better prices there.
Hope this helps.
Mike
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LS Reply:
November 14th, 2010 at 7:58 pm
Hi there,
Thanks so much for the info here. I bought a pair of Tory Burch shoes today. THe vendor started at 450 and i said 150, she came down to 220 but wouldn’t budge. i left and she stayed firm. Found a place upstairs that sold them to me for 200. I also got some bags. the ones in the shop looked like bad fakes, G’s instead of C’s for Coach. I asked if she had any Coach bags and she told me to follow her around the back of her shop. she slid a shelving unit on wheels aside and displayed a wall of Gucci, Coach, LV bags and wallets. Are these real? or really good fakes? I think i paid too much for two bags, didn’t start low enough I think because i didn’t go any higher than that but she eventually came down. do these cost more than what you’ve quoted?
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Mike Reply:
November 15th, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Hi LS,
Trust me when I say that nothing in the Shanghai Fake Markets is real! However, there are various degrees of “fake”. As you can tell, you can get some very good quality fakes that rival the real things (since many of the factories that create the real bags also create the fake bags.
Negotiating in the Shanghai Fake Markets always requires you to start low. Especially when you are dealing with a commodity like fake bags. If the first place won’t budge on price, go on to the next place.
I’ve noticed that prices aren’t a whole lot more expensive than they were when I returned to Shanghai in March of this year. My prices aren’t 100% accurate, but should give you a good idea of what the prices “should” be. As low as some of these prices sound, I would recommend you start your negotiations lower. If you can’t get what you want, start fresh at the next vendor and repeat the process. Always better to get rejected a few times than to have the first person accept your offer unless you enjoy having buyers remorse :)
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very good info i am here in shanghai right now and all that you have said is right on,thanks.
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Mike Reply:
February 19th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Thanks for the confirmation :)
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What are people paying for laser pointers? I have been able to get the smaller ones for as low as 38 RMB, and the big ones that can light a match or burn through plastic for 180-210 including the charger. I do all my shopping at S&T, although I recently went and checked out Lujaban and am having some suits made there (500 each) and got some ties at 20 a piece, cufflinks at about 25 a piece.
I have had a few suits made at S&T as well, 550 for the first one, 500 for the next two, plus a cashmere coat for about 600. I had 6 shirts made for about 550 total.
I also got a webcam, looks like Mickey Mouse and has a microphone integrated, plus two USB ports in the base that has a fan and an LED lamp. I paid 70.
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Mike Reply:
January 9th, 2011 at 9:32 pm
Dan,
Thanks for the prices you got at the shanghai fake markets. I haven’t shopped for laser pointers, but I’d also be interested in finding out what others are paying.
Mike
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where can i buy affliction and top out t-shirts? how much does it cost?
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Mike Reply:
January 19th, 2011 at 11:39 am
Hi, I don’t believe I’ve seen these shirts in Shanghai Fake Markets. Maybe I’m wrong? If you see them, I’d look to spend around 40 kuai.
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I was trying to find this specific the other day. i don’t commonly post inside forums but i wanted to say thank you!
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Mike Reply:
January 19th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Thanks :)
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I need to find the best place to get the fake, highest quailty GUCCI watch for women, valentine is coming up.
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Mike Reply:
February 5th, 2011 at 5:57 am
And you are looking to buy this at the fake markets? I’m a bit confused :)
You may want to try a mall. There are some upscale malls around west nanjing area.
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Nice work. I went to the SST market and had a blast talking to the vendors. Very friendly. Only one was obnoxious (trying to physically prevent me from leaving his store), the rest quite nice. I bought a calligraphy scroll for 50RMB. I know I over paid because the owner gave me a free brush! Still a bargain to me though.
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Mike Reply:
February 19th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
Like I always say — as long as you feel good about your purchase, don’t worry about paying a bit extra in the Shanghai Fake Markets. 50 RMB doesn’t sound bad though :)
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Oh man I wish I’d read your great page before heading to the market today… I feel like such an idiot!! A “Burberry” purse, way nicer than a lot of the other fakes, which are terribly plastic (this one is a nice, thick fabric), she started me at 2000 and I got her down to 800… I wasn’t even totally comfortable with that but now I feel like a real fool!
Live and learn, I suppose.
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Mike Reply:
March 1st, 2011 at 11:46 pm
Don’t worry about it. The Shanghai Fake Market is a place where everyone gets burned once or twice (if not more often). Like you said, live and learn and thanks for your willingness to share your story.
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Hi Mark,
today I bought 2 woman bag for 500 RMB and 1 for 200. 1 sunglasses + 1 glasses (graduated lens included) at 900…do you think I close good deals?
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Mike Reply:
March 8th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
I wouldn’t say those are bad prices in the Shanghai Fake Markets, but the sunglasses prices do seem a bit steep. Either way, I wouldn’t worry too much about it all.
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Thanks for the info Mike, this would have helped yesterday prior to visiting the Nanjing Market but will be great for a visit to the SST today. Also your fabric market page saved the day for me. All excellent content.
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Mike Reply:
March 15th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Thanks! Glad I could help.
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Do you have any info on the Guangzhou fake markets? I will be there tomorrow for the first time.
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Mike Reply:
March 15th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Hi Rick,
I’m sorry, I really need to make a trip down to the Guangzhou fake markets to do a report. I would suggest that the prices are slightly lower than those currently found in my guide for the Shanghai Fake Markets. Please let me know!
Thanks,
Mike
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Thank you for the post, although it was too late for me! I way over payed for almost every thing i bought! I remembered to check for the address but totally forgot to check the prices! I thought I did a good job but based on your prices, I really did not! =( I payed $300 (almost 2000 RMB) for 2 LV bags and 1 wallet!
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Mike Reply:
March 22nd, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Ouch! Well, as long as it is worth it to you, don’t worry too much :).
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Hi, Mike, are their any brioni shirts and fendi shoes, hermes bags. Also would Beijing be cheaper and have same choice?
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Mike Reply:
March 31st, 2011 at 11:36 pm
Hi Manoj,
I don’t know much about the brioni or fendi shoes. I believe they have Hermes bags, but I’m not 100% certain. I’ll do a search for these next time I go to the Shanghai Fake Markets.
Beijing Fake Market prices will likely be similar to Shanghai fake market prices.
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Lisa Reply:
April 14th, 2011 at 7:26 pm
Was there this past weekend and they have Hermes bags. For their best quality (i inspected it for a long time and its near real as it can get) this one lady quoted me 2,800, to which I definitely refused. Unfortunately I paid 600RMB for a next to real LV neverfull bag (real same leather handle as real LV’s, exact replica inside and out, and same quality hardware as well…maybe I’m trying to justify this to myself lol) and now am feeling the familiar angst of buyer’s remorse… want to go back, but a little bit shaken by the whole ordeal
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Mike Reply:
April 22nd, 2011 at 7:37 pm
Ahh, we all have buyer’s remorse when we first get started in the Shanghai Fake Markets :). Don’t feel too bad.
Hi Mike,
Thanks for your directions about fake market because according to your suggestion and list price i bought many things almost your price.
today i bought 1 LV bag and wallet for my mother ,they are very nice and quality,i paid 200RMB.Yesterday for 1 converse 1 paul and 1 leather sebago shoes i paid 250 Rmb
But today i bargain for 2 tshirt i offer 50 Rmb and vendor got angry :)) he said 100$ anymore :) his equipment was better than the other store i really search every floor to find his store
what do you think about this :)) ?
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Mike Reply:
April 11th, 2011 at 10:47 am
Haha, 100 RMB sounds too much, but prices are going up some. Just get a price that you are comfortable with. Shirts shouldn’t cost 100 RMB though.
Your prices seem reasonable.
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hello mike,
im born in europe but i live in shanghai and i am passioned of watches.
Living here i discovered many detail of the fake markets products.
Whatches
Is very hard to buy good replica watches,instead of buy a bad replica i suggest to buy originals and dont take the risk that somebody will reconise you while wearing a copy, many people will think you are a cheap liar.
Said so,i admit that if you can buy a perfect replica you can save over 50.000 RMB and that is a far too attractive offer.
There are about 4 different levels of fakes and the sellers will ALWAYS say that the pice of crap they have is top quality. Just a few have the top chinese made machines and the real top (swiss machines inside) i saw it very very few times.
ALL THE WATCHES YOU SEE COMING OUT OF YELLOW SOFT PLASTIC CONTAINER CAN BE BARGAINED TO 80 RMB, ALSO ALL THE WATCHES ALREADY EXPOSED FOLLOW THE SAME RULE.DONT BE SCAMMED!
Good ones come with branded box,certification of originality (yes, it is fake too XD) and other papers. Dont ask for the box specifically or they can put any crappy one inside.
If the copy is a good automatic you can pay 200 if manual 100-150.
battery is not over 100.
250 is the top price for any watch!
if you buy insist for 80 even if they ask 10.000(yes they do!). than never go over 200. if you are an expert and keep complaining over the quality they may thake out a swiss one but it is very uncommon and the watch must be a perfect replica.
Swiss replica are usually chinese cases with a mechainsm imported from switzelrland, you will not find it easyly and you must be an expert for tell if is really a swiss one or just a good chinese replica.
Perfection. That is what you look for. A less than perfect replica on outside (even if is just the back) is 100 times cheaper than a perfect one. Very VERY small details can make the difference between a replica that in europe can be valued 500 euro to one valued nothing. If the replica is very good you can be fooled even afther open the back. (usually the first layer of the mechanism,that one you can see will show brand logos and the “jewels”.)
I could go on longher but it wouold be too techincal and boring.
Anyway i have a question too, does anybody knows were the fake watches come from? I heard the wirdest stories over that!
Is there a city famous for it? or is just a company hidden somewere?
I really want to find the answer to this, my goal is to have a quite old watch not anymore avalible in the market made for me.
Bye!
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Mike Reply:
April 11th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Thank you so much for the detailed review on replica watches. Let me know if you need company the next time you go fake watch shopping in the Shanghai Fake Markets!
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Thanks so much. If it wasn’t for your website. I would have overpaid a great deal. What I have purchased so far on this trip for other’s future comparisons now that expo is over:
Nice quality coach handbag: 150
High quality prada sunglasses: 35
DVDs and Wii games: 7 each
Newer version of Uggs, 2 pairs of Converse and 1 Diesel shoes: 300 total
Hello kitty backpack: 30 (my first time purchase, probably too much).
I’d love to hear what people have paid for Ed Hardy shirts or children’s converse/clothes.
Thanks!
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Mike Reply:
April 11th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Amy,
Your prices for the Shanghai Fake Markets look good. Hopefully someone can chime in with Ed Hardy shirt prices.
Best regards,
Mike
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amy Reply:
April 12th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Looked all over S&T and Nan Jing Markets for 7 for All Mankind top quality jeans. Best ones at 4F-29 (Lily) Nan Jing. Bought 1 pair for 100. Wore them a couple of times to be sure of quality/fit. Ended up liking them as much if not better than my real ones! Had to go back and get more. Added bonus- the store owner is not pushy and irritating.
Channel Sunglasses: 30
Tiffany earrings: 20
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heho.
i was at nanjing road today. here my list….
2 pairs converse 100, 50 each small size 37, 36
1 pair converse 60 size 45
abercrombie hoodie plus tshirt for 200, i think that was too high, but quality is verry good.
2 soccer jerseys, together 140 looks original
3 jackets : 1 peak soft Shell for my small brother for 100, one mammut all weather jacket for 170 my father bought it, and one norrh face jacket for me for 150. i just went away and he kept on screaming prices untill i hot mine :D
then one true Religion jeans for 10, cool design. usually costs 400 euro!
1 real lether belt no name for 70, the guy was really polite and nice :D
3 pairs Puma socks plus one abercrombie underwear for 30!
1 abercrombie underwear for 15! i totally forgot that i had already bought one already ;)
last but not least o almost bought a mini iphone for 150! i wanted it for 80 jusf for fun but she said no, and i went :D
thx for all your effort collecting information and posting it. without your Website i would have never found out anything!!
i did want a Louis vuitton belt, but as i said 30 she said no and i went to the next store and they also quickly said no, is this price too low? i also wanted a gstar tshirt, it was the only shop selling it, but 30 was too low. have i bid too low prices?
any fake markets in hangzhou? i am there in two days…
how much do you pay for tshirts and underwear?
3 abercrombie shirts for 120 too low? i was kinda sick and mad always screaming round always bothering others things, my dad almost hit me :D i was way too exited!!
greez from shanghai nandan rd.
btw i am from germany staying in China over easter holidays. i am half chinese and half german. sometimes i was talking to shop owner in englisch and they told me names in chineses. i had almost killed one :D
and whaz was the name of the shop selling goof stuff al nanjing and s&t?
do you think quality is the same at s&t and prices are similar? more or less shops at s&t?
thx for everything!
hoping on a fast reply…
regards
bjorn….
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Mike Reply:
April 22nd, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Hi Bjorn,
Thank you for your share.
30 RMB for a belt isn’t too bad. Don’t get caught up in a few RMB if you really want it.
30 RMB for a gstar tshirt sounds about right, but the prices go up on weekends and based on quality. You may need to pay up to 50 RMB>
Hangzhou, like any major city in China, will have some variation of a fake market. However, this might be in the form of stores. Be aware that prices in Hangzhou aren’t much less expensive than prices in Shanghai.
I generally pay between 5-10 RMB / underwear. Tshirts should be 30+ RMB.
3 abercrombie shirts for 120 sounds about right.
I can’t share my secret stores in Nanjing and S&T or else the prices will go up too high ;)
I like buying jeans and coats from Nanjing fake market. S&T might be better for non-name brand shirts.
Best regards,
Mike
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40 for the small ones.
100 for the big green ones. just bought for fun :)
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Mike Reply:
April 22nd, 2011 at 7:44 pm
Thanks!
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Hi Mike,
How much updated are the prices in your website? I imagine that with the inflation prices might change rapidly, is that the case here?
I am going to Shanghai next week and will surely be visiting the market but wanted to have an updated landscape of prices to get good deals.
Thanks in advance and congrats on a great website!
Nicolas
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Mike Reply:
April 22nd, 2011 at 7:46 pm
I’ve been hit by a 33% inflation charge for one of my favorite fake market prices (a couple stores own a monopoly of the product in Shanghai).
You are correct. The prices on this page are becoming slightly outdated. However, they make for great starting points. Look to spend the prices you see on this website. If you need to pay a bit more, don’t worry too much.
Hope this helps,
Mike
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Super site very happy I found it, the girlfriends going next week and I have a nice list of stuff for her to get.
Couple of questions if anyone knows,how much should you pay for a Peuterey Coat?. And are they easy to find?.
Also from doing a fair bit of research it seem a lot of trainers don’t seem to have large sizes I’m a US-12 UK-10.5 FR-45.5 will this be a problem.
If anyone can fill me in it will be very helpfull…
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Mike Reply:
April 22nd, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Jimmy,
I hope someone can help. I personally don’t even know what a Peuterey coat is :).
Are trainers shoes? If so, you are right. you will have some problems getting shoes in that size. With fake products, it doesn’t make sense for them to mass produce products that won’t sell. However, you might be able to get lucky.
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Thanks for all the great info.
Any suggestion what to pay for wallets,smaller handbags,Armani Ties and the glass Ray Bans?
Thank you.
Recent trip to Najing Road results:
100 for 1 Coach bag
275 for 7 pairs of sunglasses (UV nice brand ones)
Had a offer for 140 for 4 Armani Ties – is that about right – still need to buy.
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Mike Reply:
April 22nd, 2011 at 7:48 pm
Thanks for your updated Nanjing Road Fake Market prices!
Sounds like you did well.
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wohooo,
i was at S&T and bought a few things….
abercrombie tshirt for 50 rmb, i checked all stores but 40 was kinda impossible.
abercrombie longsleeve for 60 rmb says women, but its definitive a male product, because i saw this at a real abercrombie store and my friend bought it.
abercrombie beach pants for 55 rmb, the stores get them for 48 rmb each so it was ok. quality good, stiching also.
starbucks tshirt for 25, good enough for sport and chilling, quality is poor like all other Shanghai shirts.
puma socks for 5 rmb each pair. quality like the real ones.
abercrombie underwear for 10 each. better as at nanjing road 580.
ray ban fake for 25, very good qualitiy. but i think all sunglasses dont have uv protection, even when they say so :D
childrens jeans for 85. they are quite thin. but at nanjing road i was looking for jeans size 30 and i never found bad quality. lower than 100 wasnt possible even at 4th storey at the very back…
timberland tshirt for 30 rmb, quality is fine and printing also.
thats all for today
greez
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Hello Mike !
I am in Shanghai now and I feel very fool: I was today in No 580 NANJING EAST ROAD and It is a big 5 floors mall but not fakes products ! There are 2 Nanjing Rd ? East and West ?
To win time, I have bought near N.E.Rd. some fakes clothes I think good quality and better prices. I will sedn the address later.
Thanks for help me !
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GORE Reply:
April 29th, 2011 at 12:27 am
OKKKK !!!
I got it !
WEST NANJING Rd. !!
thank you !
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Mike Reply:
April 30th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
Ah, my mistake. Yes, you would need to go to 580 Nanjing West Road for the Shanghai Fake Market.
Sorry about that.
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Hi,
Great references in here. Without these there’s no telling what price to aim for.
I was at S&T market today and came back with 3 diesel jeans for 400RMB and 6 nautica polo shirts for 225RMB.
I know I could have probably bargained down a little more on the shirts but I was fine with the price and tired from all the walking :)
The girl at the jeans place started at 900 and didn’t seem to willing to bargain much – that is until I walked out and she chased me throughout half the place and eventually offered 400 which was 100 above my initial offer of 300.
Thanks again for the great writeup.
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Mike Reply:
May 31st, 2011 at 12:33 am
Glad I could help!
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I am looking for information on buying Disney DVD collection sets and Rosetta Stone. How do I know they will work, what should the price for these be? I would be happy to spend a little more to ensure they will work. thank you.
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Mike Reply:
June 10th, 2011 at 11:29 pm
Laurie,
Look to spend about 4-5 RMB per DVD. If it is a 4 DVD set, look to spend about 16-20 RMB. Also, you never know with quality. I would suggest you ask the Shanghai Fake Market vendor to show you the DVDs or audio CDs on his or her computer so you can verify that they work.
I hope this helps,
Mike
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How much are headphones/earbuds (e.g. Beats by Dr. Dre) at the Shanghai Fake Market?
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Mike Reply:
July 19th, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Mo,
Not sure exactly. They shouldn’t be more than 100 RMB. Hopefully someone else can help.
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Hey,
A friend of mine said that a lot of stores at nanjing rd were closed or arent selling designer things like gucci.
Is that true?? He says cause there are people there to control…judges etc
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Mike Reply:
July 19th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
Anything that “isn’t” sold anymore is typically still available in back rooms in Shanghai Fake Markets as far as I am aware. What’s ironic though is that you see the signs in the fake markets specifically listing these brands as unsellable.
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sorry, very new to shanghai and don’t know anything about fake market. Other that 580 Nanjing West Road is there any other fake market that provide good product and cheap price? What is S&T? thanks b4
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Mike Reply:
July 19th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Hi Dita,
S&T is science and technology museum located in the subway station with the same name (metro line 2). I’d recommend it if you are looking for another good Shanghai Fake Market.
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Thanks for the blog gave me a little more confidence in dealing with shop owners.
Just got back from Nanjing West Market:
A Tag Heuer watch for 250RMB (first purchase shop owner kind of roped me into it)
Beats by Dre headphones for 235RMB (Did alright I think)
Vintage Ted Williams Red Sox Jersey for 120RMB (Fun negotiation)
Overall I was pretty happy with my purchases but I feel like you only get better at bargaining the more you do it!
Best of luck to everyone!
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Mike Reply:
August 3rd, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Thanks for the feedback on your trip to the Shanghai Fake Market at Nanjing West. I’ve always wondered what the prices for the Dre headphones were…
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Frank Reply:
August 17th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
One of my friends got the In-ear headphones for 35 RMB.
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Hi Mike,
Best quality watches can be had for about 170rmb at both 580 Nanjing west and S&T with a bit of haggling. I could probably have done a little better but as I get older I can’t be bothered squeezing every last drop out. They are only trying to make a living so ifi give them a dollar more so be it. At least when told I had bought at less than cost they laughed when I told them they wouldn’t have sold at a loss. Agreed they made a profit but only a small one :-)
I was surprised at how few people were around and by the lack of tourists in general.
Thanks for the blog, lots of people have no idea they can generally purchase at about 10% of the initial price. I actually find that a good rule of thumb if you have no idea what to pay.
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Mike Reply:
August 17th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Thanks for the information. Yes, 10% is a good starting point. Depending on the item in the shanghai fake markets, you can sometimes get for this price.
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Excellent info! I overpaid last time I was there, but next time I’ll be prepared!
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Fake Watches: Your advice on telling them to bring out the best is great, it works. But the prices given by your need to be updated. Nowadays, there are a lot less tourists, so prices for watches have dropped. Don’t pay more than RMB 65 (yes, sixty five only) for any watch, be it best or not. They may start with some price that very high, but do come down when you leave the third time. I managed to get two watches at the above price and even then the shopkeeper was laughing at my stupidity!!!!(after I paid him) I did hard bargain after scanning the market. He had innitially asked for 800!!!! Sometimes they are aggressive and willing to fight, so if you sense any trouble or unusual gathering or movements, leave the shop immediately. After coming to my hotel in clear light, the workman ship on the watches is a clear give away. Any trained eye can say its a fake.
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Mike Reply:
August 17th, 2011 at 9:09 pm
Wow, 65 RMB sounds extremely low for a top level watch at the Shanghai Fake Markets. Congrats for getting that though. I might need to do a bit of shopping next time I return to Shanghai…
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About the watches. I have this problem – I live in Europe but frequently travel to China. Last time I bought one very good replica (not a chronograph) for 300RMB. I check the price in three shops (firs two sellers refuse to give me the same watch for 220RMB and 260RMB) so I think the price is OK. In several websites I saw the same watch for about double the price – this is also OK(if you don’t want to go to China this is a very good price). The problem comes with the chronographs with A7750 and A7753 movements. In these sites they are listed over 400$ so if the profit of the sites is the same, this means that I cannot get one for less than 1000-1200RMB. Is this the real price for replica chronograph?
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Mike Reply:
August 19th, 2011 at 11:02 am
I’m not sure, but we can see if someone with more knowledge can help!
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Beats by Dre headphones – I get one of those for 220RMB and half a hour. If you dont want to spend that time arguing with the seller give him 240-250 and take them right away.
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This guide is awesome!!! I usually never comment on blogs but yours just saved me a small fortune & I guess the least I could do is give you some feedback. I lost track of how many times I got scolded / told off by the shopkeepers when I counter-offered at your list price, but I got all that I set out to buy. Granted I may have paid more than the minimum price-point, but I was quite picky with the merchandise. So here’s what I got:
1) Longchamp midsize canvas tote bag (from S&T): rmb35 down from rmb90(this is the lowest I got after visiting 2 shops. when I was at the 2nd shop a local guy was offering this for buying in bulk, so the shopkeeper very reluctantly extended the same price offer to me)
2) CK boxer briefs (not shorts)(from S&T): rmb15 down from rmb35(lowest I could manage at 2 shops; got yelled at at the 2nd shop before she agreed to this price)
3) Longchamp large canvas tote bag (the largest size there is) (from 580): rmb60. not much fuss. guy shopowner kinda sensed I was not that interested in the product so agreed on this price.
4) Burberry tote (from 580): rmb250 down from rmb1800. I offered rmb200 & had walked out, but the girl yelled at me & told me that I can’t just make an offer & leave without giving her a chance to think about it; we settled on 250 in the end.
5) Panerai luminor (from 580): rmb380 down from rmb1800. Ok so this is near your max price of rmb400, but it is a very good replica (only difference is that the glass has a blue-ish tinge which is an inherent flaw in most panerai replica’s). I offered rmb200 & copped an earful (I was yelled at in the backroom for about a minute before I was let out). As I was leaving after buying the burberry tote the shopkeeper ran up & we agreed on 380.
6) Gstar jacket (from 580): rmb200 down from rmb500. Again got a major scolding when I offered rmb100. Managed to get this price after walking out.
7) LV ladie’s monogram long zippy wallet (from 580): rmb95 down from rmb180. Went back to the place I got the burberry tote(yes I am a sucker for punishment). Probably not the lowest price but I didn’t mind as I have handled the real one before & this one was pretty darn similar (only difference was the cardholder compartment)
Stuff that I couldn’t get the price I wanted (and hence didn’t buy) were:
1) toddler’s ed hardy tshirt (lowest I could get from both S&T & 580 was rmb25, mostly after being scolded numerous times for proposing rmb10 & being insulted for being a cheapskate parent & dresser)
2) paul smith small scarf (shopkeeper at 580 offered rmb80 & treated me like I was deaf when I offered rmb10; no further attempts at haggling was made)
So here is a summary of my experience (just to re-affirm & agree with your blogs):
1) the minimum price point is possible if you are not too picky. eg for the watch, I could have gotten a good quality rolex/patek philippe for rmb200. however, woe to me I preferred panerai, & rmb200 would only get me the very basic fake (ie, shoddy workmanship). To get the “backroom” stuff I needed to pay more.
2) not forming an attachment to the merchandise & walking away does wonders for bargaining.
3) it’s all a show – they will yell, scream, insult, ridicule, guilt-trip you etc, but at the end of the day will still sell to you if they can turn a profit.
Thanks again Mike!!
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Mike Reply:
August 24th, 2011 at 9:55 pm
Awesome story and great tips. I especially like point #3. I think it’s funny when people take the screaming personally or feel bad because of it. It’s all a part of the Shanghai fake market experience!
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anyone knows the best price for beats by dr dre studio??? in black…
maybe 150 rmb??
greetings
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tan Reply:
September 10th, 2011 at 7:52 am
Not sure if you’re still in the market for them, but i managed to get ‘beats’ for 60 RMB yesterday. The build quality is great and the sound is perfect.
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heyy people .. im looking for a factory in china that makes those fake stuff, i want to buy for a big quantity, any1 cn help me for this ?
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Hi Mike,
Could you help me with price for eyewear (not sun glasses)like Burberry, Montblanc, Gucci? Is any place that I could buy golf clothes, accessories? Tks,
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Mike Reply:
September 7th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Daniel,
I believe the West Nanjing fake market has glasses, but I’m not entirely sure. There are golf shops in the Nanjing Rd and Shanghai Science and Technology fake markets.
Best of luck,
Mike
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Mike, good afternoon.
excellent article, tell me things that are sold in these markets are very similar to the original, and whether you encountered with copies of 1:1?
Max
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Mike Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 9:05 am
It all depends on what you get. Some quality is good, some not so good. Not really sure what 1:1 is unfortunately :(
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Firstly, i would like to thank you for this site. It came in handy as i prepped to hit the streets.
I went to a number of markets today, and think i did okay (my bargaining skills arent all that great).
I was at Qipu Lu Fashion market, pretty much as it opened this morning. After wandering around i settled in on a store selling decent quality handbags. I ended up getting a LV purse and a Mont Blanc (soft-leather) shoulder bag for 180 RMB. Coming from the UK, i had decided before i went in that i would not pay any more that £10 per item, and these two hit the upper limit.
I then walked to Nanjiag Road, but i think i made a similar mistake to some of the others on the forum. I walked on East Nanjing road, but couldnt find the store. Anyway, this guy approached me and wanted to show me some handbags and watches. He took me to two small shops in the alley, that had an impressive collection of stuff.
I was still in the market for another bag, but was quoted 1500 rmb as the starting price. I told the lady that i had just bought two bags for 100 RMB, and after a while let her see the product. She admitted that the quality was good, and i was able to pick up the bag (Mulberry) from her for 110 RMB.
After lunch, i went to the S&T market. I found it a lot easier to haggle here. picked up bits and pieces, like new headphone, sunglasses, ties and a couple of tshirts.
I was quite impressed by the range available and the variance in quality. I would definately recommend Qipu Lu market.
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Mike Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 9:04 am
Thanks for your walk through! I actually lived right next to the QiPu Lu Fake Market for some time. I bought some clothes and shoes, but never went crazy in it.
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Back again in Sh right now and just have to provide som interesting reflections from previous visits at the fake mkt. One store had fixed prices, a favourite for all airliners and others tired of negotiating, and sold Cartier copies and other pretty well made copies for fixed reasonable prices, maybe adding 10 RMB per item compared to the final price if negotiating upstairs with the others. I stand there once and a woman arrives, goes to the owner and says, I will pay 150 for this, and he says nono, that is way too low, my price is above 1000 RMB, and she walks out. I happen to know that the fixed price is 90 RMB and asks him why he acted like this. He said, she will be back tomorrow, she has been here before… I think that shows some of the mentality out there, it is a game they like, and the screaming and yelling is part of it! :)
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Mike Reply:
October 2nd, 2011 at 9:00 am
Thanks for your Shanghai Fake Market story :)
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I’ve been through the same situation with jeans where there was one with good quality and the best with bad. The one with good quality was charging over 2x as much as everyone else, but knew I would buy. Maybe you can get someone else to buy? Sometimes they remember you and keep prices high when they know you will buy.
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